The blocks - I think we’ve mentioned them before. I intend on the blocks and have them. Planning to rebuild the whole thing for structure after figuring out the rocks generally. Till then it’s just barely hanging, yes.brokensword wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 2:15 pm
I'll note individual 'issues, maybe' first so I don't forget them; in that bottom tier of conc blocks, left side, you have one horizontal slab that is ONLY supported by it's back edge--get yourself a couple conc BRICKS and put it under that front right side edge for support. You don't want the weight of rocks and nature moving things via winter to make your rock wall slip.
Q; in the last couple pics, are you planning on having rocks IN your river then, below the bog overflow portion? You might want to take them out, get everything set, turn the water on, and THEN add rocks per taste. I think you may have a jam of water there and it'll be easier to see this happening if you put the rocks in the river one at a time and note how the flow is going.
The divert to the right; I think you're probably going to lose water coming forward at you and less going down to the right than you may want. Which may also create more splash/water loss than you want, as well. That's why I was suggesting a 'rock wall' in front of the flat divert slate AND a separate piece of liner there, to contain the water and truly make it go 'right' toward your river mouth.
I see you trying to set head/gate stones down the front of the 'bog wall' portion; if you plan on any slate there between (which I saw in my mind immediately), I'd get them and place them. It's hard to really truly judge when so much is still missing, ala smaller fill in rocks and obvious places for plants. If you plan on plants, and are going to place pots of soil in nooks between rocks, I'd just get them and place to help you visualize this. You may have to water them to keep them alive until you finally place them unless you're close to completion. These plants should be able to handle constant wetness, so should be marginals/bog plants that like it that way. Now, you will get some moss but it takes time for that to build up on your rocks. AND, you WILL get green algae (string type, too) on any rock that is constantly wet. Bank on it. Mine grows on the waterfall steps and I occasionally take the hose and force it off where it falls into the pond and the fish eat it. You're having no fish, so realize as you hose any algae off, it has to go somewhere. I'd have an open area below this wall where I could put a net to scoop it out after hosing washes it down. I sometimes do this with my waterfalls but lately, just let the fish eat it. There's gonna be some dirt accumulation that washes down with the algae.
In re-looking at the various pics, definitely keep the larger boulders low and graduate to smaller ones as you work your way up. I think it'll look better balanced that way (imo). You may also want to cut your horizontal slabs shorter/narrower depending, as I think you may have trouble covering the corners that stick out in most of your pics. That is, if you look at a profile and think 'stairs/steps' for the whole wall, the front of the tread portion has two points and a front edge; these will show unless the lower step helps cover (as in rocks ON the lower step rising in FRONT of that tread piece to cover it. The flat portions of your stair can have either rounded or flat, but I see 'flat' as more obvious. If you don't want that, you DON'T NEED the flat portion, unless you like the more sturdy nature of conc slabs. You CAN just lay rounded on rounded and angle up to your bog weir. This way, you don't need to worry about covering the front 'tread and it's corners' with camo rocks. I hope all that wasn't confusing; let me know and I'll do some drawings if it is.
I really do think you should go with what comes closest to your vision, and turn the bog on. The falling water will tell you a lot. And yeah, you may work with placing rocks AS THE WATER is falling; then you can make immediate assessment and tweak each part. I'm assuming you have the diverted water to the right as first importance so work on that and get it looking as you want. As noted, you're prob going to lose water forwards on that first flagstone; it may be more than you want happening and that's where the retaining smaller rounded front rock will help, but the liner UNDER the flag is going to do more if you use that separate piece and make a concave chute for the water to run in. You'll be putting smaller flag or rounded rock ON your flag pieces against the liner on the backside just for looks anyhow so more in front to help form a barrier will mesh in just fine. You're already stacking and restacking rocks anyway; might as well see what the water part does to your vision and save yourself some time. As noted earlier, re-building waterfalls is almost an automatic.
You’re observing everything I’m not intending focus on lol. The rocks in the river are just random rocks I moved around to see how they laid, big or small. Wasn’t hauling them in/out of the river during testing. EFFORT.
Not planning a big amount of large rocks, mainly just on the face of the bog overflow mass.
Turned the one concrete block out to show turning blocks for diff ideas not good, having to work w the general structure I have now (plus stability and fine touches).
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